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Janis Vucelik's avatar

The more I learn about Islam the more I am convinced the only solution is to stop all Muslim immigration and start deportation. It’s time to treat Muslim immigrants as an invading force and Islam as a dangerous ideology instead of just another religion. The Constitution of the US was never intended as a suicide pact.

Julia Simmons's avatar

I need a shower after reading that.

Just Lisa's avatar

I had to keep taking breaks to breathe

Julia Simmons's avatar

It was disgusting reading about what has been done to so many women and children by people holding these medieval beliefs. These are nasty bastards, and they are incredibly violent.

Francis Leahy's avatar

There is nothing “mediaeval” about the beliefs described here. The Middle Ages were a time of great moral, intellectual and artistic progress. It was during the middle ages that slavery was forbidden in England, Magna Carta written and Parliament originated. We should be proud of the achievements of mediaeval Europe.

Chasing Oliver's avatar

During that period the Islamic world was richer and more tolerant than Christendom. Muslims allowed Christians to live in peace with a special tax paid; Christians forced all Muslims to convert or leave wherever they held power.

David Wieland's avatar

Having to pay a special tax because you're a second class citizen is tolerant?

Chasing Oliver's avatar

More so than being told to convert or die. Sometimes, like with the Cathars, they didn’t even get the first option.

And “citizenship” wasn’t a thing on either side of the religious frontier, except in a few weird places like Venice and Dithmarschen.

Christian in the Kingdom's avatar

They have unlimited ecstasy. 72 virgins in heaven and unlimited sex on earth and in their heaven 🤦🏼‍♀️, see that if one or two of their four wives are stubborn, they can divorce them and marry another two again.

Julia Simmons's avatar

It’s a great religion for ugly and weird dudes.

Christian in the Kingdom's avatar

😂 what else I can say 🤷‍♀️, disoriented mindset.

Leon Edwards's avatar

Wait until they find out the 72 virgins are very horney men

Julia Simmons's avatar

As long as the men are hairless, with big brown eyes, they won’t even notice the difference. 😂

Christian in the Kingdom's avatar

I’m laughing while I’m reading it 😂

Ksk's avatar

Reading what, exactly?

Mike Lynch's avatar

What shocks me the most is how much western women seem to defend these monsters. Someone ought to tell these liberal feminists who walk amongst us to be careful for what they wish for! Islam is a man’s religion, so western men will be just fine living under its rule. Whereas women will be treated like property!

David Wieland's avatar

Actually, I don't think men will be just fine under Islam, unless you think men are "just fine" in North Korea. I've come to realize that Islam is a totalitarian ideology masked with a veneer of spiritual practice.

Mike Lynch's avatar

Really? From what I know, and my knowledge of Islam is limited to some extent because I don’t NOT wish to know, is that us working-class, misogynist Reform types need only swear a simple oath to Allah and we are in the club. We are then entitled to enjoy owning women as opposed to treating them as our equals! You ought to read the 2015 novel ‘Submission’ by Michel Houellebecq - you’ll find it enlightening on this subject.

Dan Dagovitz's avatar

This was an excellent discourse, although I think it "sugar coats" some aspects of Islam. In all, accurate and real.

Thank you Dan!

Lionsden's avatar

War is coming to your doorstep, prepare yourselves it will get ugly.These people aren’t here to integrate they are here to take over and you will convert or suffer.

Jack Harper's avatar

The point is not that 2 billion Muslims do not act in this vile way. It is that many thousands of them do and that Islam justifies and encourages it.

Scott's avatar

The problem is the so called "moderate " Muslims will not condemn of speak out about Muslim atrocities or insane and evil interpretations of the Koran

David Wieland's avatar

Because the "moderate" Muslims have been indoctrinated with the same vile ideology but aren't (yet) willing to fully exercise its directives. We've been misled to believe that their values and views are different.

Leon Edwards's avatar

Is "moderate Muslim" an oxymoron?

David Wieland's avatar

Judge for yourself.

From Islam Net: https://youtu.be/XHLKFFq74Gk?si=KGYu2zY_1KxRnmjz

The most interesting part starts about two minutes in.

FFP's avatar

Fine, but a wife should not unreasonably refuse sex with her husband. Western rape law has gone a bit crackers - marriage was public consent in law.

FFP's avatar

Takes two to tango but a French prostitute once remarked that wives who did not want sex with their husbands should not complain about her clients.

Ksk's avatar

So long as men should also not unreasonably expect sex with their wives no matter what the circumstances.

Nonoptional Advice's avatar

Islamic heaven

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9yTAZGDLFQ

An analysis of the words used shows the “virgins of paradise” are described as having breasts that stick out like the ankle bone in an ankle. In other words, tanner stage two, in other words, prepubescent. Combine that with the promise of ‘having a boner that would last through a hundred encounters,” and the magical re-forming hymen … and according to Muhammad, Allah is basically offering 24/7 prepubescent child rape with a river of wine nearby as the ultimate reward.

And what is a Muslim woman’s reward? Apparently watching him do this.

Who is worse? Allah or Epstein?

Ingelle's avatar

Exactly.Iran under the perverted ayottollahs & muftis is one huge pedo state where paedophilia is legal.

Noel Liddell's avatar

Islam is the repugnant vanguard of the religious Reconquista of the enlightened democratic world. If we let it happen.

the long warred's avatar

Sounds like you ladies do need men to defend you. Problem being it’s illegal, and unlike rape there’s real jail time involved. You’re indefensible.

Author confused, Islam doesn’t have a rape problem. Islam has a solution; “the women you take with your right hand..” That’s a solution. Islam has rape, the West has Only Friends. Islam has slave girls having babies, the West has abortions. The Western problem is the men are castrated legally and women-who are bluffing- are held as equals. We aren’t equal, women are almost entirely defenseless on your own. If we defend you we’re put in jail. You women DID THIS from motives of greed and spite. You dug the mass grave with feminism and nagged us all into it. <what I just wrote would get me arrested in England. More time in jail than the Afghan rapists. If the Dems get into power here they’ll pass the same laws. They won’t be enforced except very spottily but will exist. Your problem ladies is you’re indefensible. You chose this fate.

“Islam has a rape problem, and confront it we must, the sexual slavery, enforced prostitution and mass rape of European women and girls will continue.”

the long warred's avatar

As stated; there’s no Islam problem. There’s a Western woman problem.

Ingelle's avatar

Are you a muslim?

the long warred's avatar

No I’m a LC (Lapsed Catholic) American veteran. Yourself? Since you asked, I ask. I think the author must be a woman. My answers are out of frame, so I must be “muslim.” This will probably be followed by Nazi, sexist etc. I’m not answering in frame so____ however perhaps some will consider anyway.

The problem you write about -Muslim Rape- is a symptom, the disease is politically empowering women and the subsequent degradation and destruction of the defenders , the rule of law being nonsense cope, as we see in your article. We men can’t defend you because we’ll go to jail, you can’t defend yourselves with extraordinarily rare exceptions, here we are- the article discussed symptoms, I’m pointing out the disease: the disease autoimmune disorder that is law, now an autoimmune virus, and that a very related disease called feminism is how all this was carried into policy. Now we men would probably like to defend you but; 1) We’ll be in jail or dead, forgotten. 2) We men have no stake in this system, no surety, no children that aren’t the property of the state and the state’s agents- mothers- nor do we have any secure financial or legal status. So why?

I am aware this was completely out of frame, but it may make sense to some. YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN, NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE YOU.

Ingelle's avatar

You do realise women can defend men,too. It's not all about physical strength- that is too simplistic.

the long warred's avatar

In theory women could defend men in practice they denounce, divorce and abandon men.

As for simplistic- violence is pretty simple.

Women didn’t evolve for violence, with extraordinary exceptions not reliable and basically you’re down to shooting them, the rest is fantasy.

Where are you going with all this anyway? Everything is known about European problems and the higher rates of crime, rape, violence for generations. The Koran and the culture have been known for 1400 years. What is the point? Change of policy?

Honest question.

Chasing Oliver's avatar

Women don't need men to defend them. They need men to get out of the way of letting them defend themselves as they see fit. If women in Britain were allowed to carry weapons rape would drop dramatically.

the long warred's avatar

“If they were allowed..” says it all. You ain’t pulling no trigger- however… I don’t disagree the women should be armed, however HMG 🇬🇧👑 DOES. I’m not your problem. You’re your problem.

PS how does this solve grooming gangs and single mommy action Heroine meaning no Father to defend his young children? We 🇺🇸 at no point especially in our slums lacked firearms, madam. The will to use them being inculcated in a young girl (!) or even grown woman a different matter. Train any women? It’s an entirely different matter than training men or boys. This can only be done by the Father or Father figure. As indeed the permission to shoot, sometimes police dispatch on the phone telling the woman it’s permissible to shoot the intruder. We are not the same. However yes, the UK citizen abandoned and betrayed by their police should arm themselves.

We have a saying over here “Black it up” meaning get real, suggest in your case you “Paddy ☘️ it up.” Good luck.

John Birch's avatar

I knew all this because I’ve studied the Quran and worked in Muslim countries but this is the best article I have ever seen that clarifies everything in One article.

Everyone should read this because unless you understand what’s in this, you will never understand Islam.

And as a footnote, it tells you every reason why they shouldn’t be here.

Остап Ибрагимович's avatar

I am not sure that the legions of men and teenagers involved in ever increasing acts of sexual violence against women in western Europe are experts at Quranic exegesis. Moreover, I am certain that plenty of them have engaged in these behaviours with girls from their own communities/families, because they know full well the sort of fear that exists in honour and shame cultures in regards to publicizing it.

Middle Aged Moderate's avatar

It’s true that these Muslim immigrants who have raped western girls and women probably aren’t experts in Islamic theology. But this wicked theology along with the warped tribal values, was the cultural water they swam in. And when Pakistani men raped British women and girls, they were known to invite over male family members to join in. Men from other cultures just don’t do that. It’s a unique form of depravity that is logically downstream from mainstream Islamic theology. Also, I seriously doubt they were doing that to women of their own communities because of the possibility repercussions. That is why western governments should take extremely harsh measures, including mass deportations and capital punishment for ringleaders of rape gangs. Treat Muslim men who do this like they would be treated back home for rape.

Остап Ибрагимович's avatar

The ones that do that within their own communities do it in secret, that is true. But you'd be surprised at how many Muslim women talked about handsy Quran teachers and random ‘uncles’ during the height of Me2. However, this is generally very randomly made public, as it brings great shame on the family, and renders the women unmarrriageable. At any rate, the prosecution (or often lack thereof) of the crimes that have been made public is enough to be angry about.

Middle Aged Moderate's avatar

Wow! Sounds like a potential scandal in the making!

Lance S's avatar

And yet, Western courts and judges are afraid to prosecute for fear of being labeled as "rascist" or "Islamaphobe"

Middle Aged Moderate's avatar

Sadly, this is the case. The irony is that Islam has a long history of imperialism, settler colonialism, slavery (including sex slavery), homophobia, and misogyny. These are all things that self-righteous leftists want all westerners to feel guilty about. But Islam gets a free pass because it isn’t western.

MarlaSinger's avatar

I’m old enough to remember when politicians used to say ‘we fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here.’

Mike Casey's avatar

Yet another group blame article. It uses isolated, extreme quotes from specific criminal trials (such as the actions of individuals in the UK grooming gang cases or illegal migrants) to characterise the mindset of millions of law-abiding Muslim residents and citizens living in Europe. This form of collective responsibility weakens the analytical validity of the piece, turning a potentially complex criminological study into a broad ideological polemic.

wayne john's avatar

maaan, get your head out of whatever institution and the books you've been told to read for 40yrs.. you ever travel/live in the near/middle east?

Mike Casey's avatar

In brief, I lived in Israel during the seventies, in Petah Tikva, Eilat, and also near Tiberias. By chance, I escaped the Petah Tikva market bombing that took place on July 6, 1977 by shopping earlier that day.

I also helped build a kibbutz in the Golan. I made many friends, Jewish, Druze, Arab, from all walks of life, some of them are still friends today.

I also visited Lebanon,Jordan, Egypt, and Libya.

And for the past fifty years I've watched from afar the growth of Israel and the long conflict.

So tell me what you find so offensive about my above post. Be detailed if you can. Argue the points.

wayne john's avatar

We are 20yrs apart, me in the future, aslo working in tiberias, Kinneret lake, worked a hostel at Jaffa gate, worked and lived with archeological team, Kurt Revah at Tel Dor/Nahsholim/AL-TANTURA (look it up).. also worked and lived in India, Africa ,near east, china, japan blah blah blah.

You are correct in that it was generally irrelevant what religion/colour you are (once the interest fades as you assimilated) and as long as your neigbhour isnt a fantic.. but your living 20yrs behind me and I am living 20yrs behind the next generation etc etc and today this Kombi ya fantasy is... a fantasy because its not the same world.

Mike Casey's avatar

It would be useful to the cause of scholarly empirical debate if you actually dealt with some of the points I made in the post you so readily dismissed.

wayne john's avatar

naaa not a indoctrinated scholar, just a layman and we are just talking and not in the ‘hallowed halls’ of oxford.. dismiss all you like brother, It dont change the fact I’m a dinosaur and your an older one.. the world changed. it aint cricket anymore. Islam is not compatible in the western hemisphere, its the antithesis of “the wests morality” and a near thousand year pause from their original jihadist drive of conquest of the infidels.

Mike Casey's avatar

Seems to me the title and content and style and register of the opening article is bordering on the realms of academia.

Not something you'd find in a chat down the pub.

Mike Casey's avatar

And yet this is not X/Twitter, Tiktok, etc...

Scott's avatar

When law abiding Muslims do not condemn evil justified by their own holy books, they are complicit. Moderates will tell you, "I don't do it but that is what the Koran says"

Mike Casey's avatar

Many have condemned “evil” acts by fellow Muslims.

Bob Ewald's avatar

It’s not a religion. It’s an ideology cobbled together by an ill mind, which then seeks maniacal domination.

Tying Knots's avatar

Thank you. This is exactly the type of explanation I was looking for. It’s much worse than I thought.